Laughs, Lessons, and Leadership: Patrick Faulkner Shares Stories From the Thin Blue Line

Welcome to another episode of The First Responder Playbook! In today’s show, Brent sits down with Patrick Faulkner, a seasoned law enforcement professional, Air Force veteran, and the mind behind both ADB Training and the Knock and Talk Show podcast. Patrick shares his winding journey through multiple police departments, from the sleepless nights of small-town policing to tackling international theft rings as a detective. He opens up about the highs and lows of the profession, including the challenges of leaving law enforcement and finding new purpose beyond the badge.

Patrick and Brent also dive deep into the mission behind ADB Training and ADB Nation—a rapidly growing community designed to support, connect, and elevate first responders across the country. You’ll get a behind-the-scenes look at innovative training programs, the power of positive community, and the importance of storytelling and humor in this tough line of work.

Whether you’re in public safety, thinking about a career change, or just love great stories from the front lines, you won’t want to miss this candid, inspiring, and sometimes hilarious conversation. Let’s get started!

Alright, guys. Welcome to the first responder playbook. I'm here with Patrick Faulkner. Patrick, tell everybody a little bit about yourself. Oh, jeez. Do you want the, Reader's Digest version or the Time Life magazine expose? I definitely want the expose. You want the expose. Okay. So, it was a Saturday morning. It was about 09:46AM, February 1975 when I was born. I was born in a small house in Pensacola, Florida. I'm just kidding. So, my name is Patrick Faulkner, and, as you could see maybe from this very bad background, I also am a podcast host for the Knock and Talk Show, a little comic relief from the streets. I met, I met Brent through the ADB nation where I currently work. We'll get into that later. I, I I live I was born in Florida, moved to Knoxville in, middle school and high school, moved to Baltimore, which is why I sound funny. Graduated, in '93, so that's why this gray patch is is right there. Moved to moved to Birmingham, which is where all my family is from. Lived with my grandfather after my grandmother passed away to help him kinda, like, settle into this new chapter of his life. And it took, exactly six months of the romantic stories he told of the second World War in order for me to join the air force. He was in the Army Air Corps as was my my dad's father, and my uncle was in the Air Force. So, I picked up the torch, joined, the Air Force in '95. I served through 1999. I did two tours in The Desert, 1 in Jordan, one in Bahrain. And then thanks to Clinton and his do more with less campaign, it was time for me to get out. I didn't reenlist, so I got out. And when I got out, I was, in in 1999, I was, no more qualified to do anything, that I wasn't qualified to to do before I went in. Does that make sense? Did I say that right? Anyway, so I had three choices, because I was, I was interviewing, for avian well, that's what I did in the air force. I guess I should say that. I was avionics technician on the f sixteens, which is a really fancy way of saying I take a broken box out of the plane, and I grab a new good box, and I put that one into the plane and, you know, then we get pickles in the pickle jar. So when I, when I got out, I was I was told I was too military specific, and I was overqualified for every avionics position I was applying for. And in the late nineties and early two thousands, no one gave a rat's rear end, if you were a veteran. It was the it just it didn't mean anything. It it just meant that you could drink beer on a base versus drinking beer on a college campus. So, I had three choices. I could be, a garbage man, a fireman, or a cop. And, well, garbage stinks. Although in retrospect, those dudes make a lot of money. I should've probably done that. Firemen run into burning buildings on purpose. To me, that's psychotic. So where else can you, you know, drive fast, carry a gun, and help people? And, so that's what I that's what I picked. So in '99, I joined, the Gwinnett County Police Department in, Metro Atlanta. Then for the next sixteen and a half years, I worked at four different agencies, and there was there was a reason why each one of the shifts, they were all on my my terms. It wasn't like I was bounced out or anything. Right. 02/2007, I decided I I wanted to be a small business owner, and I started my own company. And some of your listeners may remember that was probably the worst year to start a business with the housing crash. So when I left Gwinnett in o seven, I was told don't come back from those people that left and came back. They said you're treated differently. Leadership reminds you that you owe them for allowing you to come back. So, I went to work for a very small police department. When I say small, it was seven men strong to include the chief, the assistant chief, which was also the detective, and armorer and crime scene technician, and I think he wore a couple other hats. We had a lieutenant who was the patrol commander, and then we had four worker bees. We worked twelve hour shifts, and, I was the only one on my shift, in my uniform. So I work 6PM to 6AM. And this town was two and a half square miles. There was 200 front doors in the whole town. There was not a traffic light. A lot of stop signs, but no traffic lights. It was literally Mayberry, like, 02/2007. '2 thousand '8, I guess, is when I went back in. So, yeah, I, I stayed there for two two and a half years, but then at that point, the city, couldn't afford the police department anymore. So they they disbanded the the PD and turned it over to the SO to, to run calls. And I didn't wanna wear brown. I'd only worn blue. I didn't wanna wear brown. And in Georgia, you wore blue, and you actually got to work calls, or you wore brown and you were a a professional adult babysitter and had keys to you know? And that, that didn't excite me at all. So I went to work for another small agency, but it was a little bit bigger. I think it was about forty forty officers. And I was there a year and a day, and that was the most miserable place I'd ever worked in my entire life to include the military. My sergeant got his stripes because he put the deck on the chief's house. Give you an idea of that good old boy club. So, I I had act I knew more about policing than my sergeant did. He was five or six year veteran. At that point, I had about ten years, and, I was the first officer to arrest a woman for domestic violence in that police department's history, and it was founded in the eighteen hundreds. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, it was a miserable place. I couldn't wait to get out. So I was actually recruited to go start a police department, and how awesome is that? I mean, with so there was a a college police department, in Metro Atlanta that, was was transitioning from a security department into a police department. And, one of my old friends, from Gwinnett called and was like, hey, dude. You wanna come work here and be a start, startup officer? And I was like, sure. Yeah. Who turns that down? So, that's what I did. I was there four and a half years, and, I tore my rotator cuff off duty. I was, I was the canine handler, canine sergeant, patrol sergeant, field training coordinator, special operations sergeant, the captain's right hand. Man, it was it was great. I loved it. But, my, my last day of FMLA protection was the day of my shoulder surgery. So when the doctor said you're, you're clear to go back, the agency was like, well, sorry, kid. We've given your dog to somebody. We've given your stripes to somebody else. We don't have a canine sergeant position available. Good luck to you. Which was in 02/2014. So, that was, the beginning of the hands up, don't shoot, can't breathe, the b l BLM movement, the assassination of police officers was beginning, like, the onslaught. Right? It this this job has never been safe. But at that point, it was just downright dangerous, you know, officers having coffee in a coffee shop getting executed in the back of the head. So, I I think it was a blessing in disguise. So that, so I'd I've done everything in police work you can do in polyester and Kevlar, but ride a horse or ride a motorcycle. So that's, that's halfway Reader's Digest, halfway time life. Okay. So the sheriff's office, in Oklahoma, I mean, a lot of times, you know, the sheriff's responsible for the jail and stuff like that. In Georgia, especially Gwinnett County, did you have to start in the jail or dispatch? Did they hire you straight out on the patrol? Or Yeah. So, in in Metro Atlanta, and then there's some outlying counties. We have both a county PD and a county sheriff's office in the same county. And in that instance, the PD runs the calls for the county, and the SO runs court security warrants and, the jail. Now we've got, 200 something counties in Georgia, and there's a lot of lot of counties that just have an SO for the county, and they do the calls for service as well as courthouse and, jail. But in Metro Atlanta, most agent most counties have both a county PDN and an SO. So I got hired directly in as a, as a road officer. Okay. In Georgia, because there's a lot of poor small counties, the the county has one year to send you to jailer school after you've been hired. So you go through FTO in the jail to learn your job, and then they have a year to send you to jailer school to learn the legales of your job. They do something similar in Oklahoma. It used to be a year, but they changed it down six months. And, so I'm familiar with that process, but I was I actually got a check with that because, we have some young guys in the academy right now, and they just changed how they're doing it again. And now they they want them to finish in six months, so we're having to get them an extension letter. And I'm like, let's just settle somewhere and stay. Yeah. Right. So so let me let me ask you this. If, once the once they go through the academy and they and they become road certified, whatever that is in Oklahoma, do they stick them back in the jail for undetermined amount of time, or do they get to do they get to roll right into, patrol once they've graduated? It depends. The bigger sheriff's offices like Oklahoma and Tulsa County, there's a good chance you're either gonna go to the courts or the jail for a while and maybe spend a couple years in that and then go out to patrol if you want. Okay. But most municipalities, state agencies, tribal agencies, you can go straight into patrol. And that's, that's how I I I was in dispatch, but then I got hired on I worked at a couple of municipalities, and, they usually would hire a lot of uncertified guys and send them to the academy. And that's, that's what's unique about our tribal agency is, half of them we send to the state academy, and then half of them we send to the Indian Police Academy through FLETC in, Artesia, New Mexico. And then when they get done there, they have to come back and it's now online, but it's a, a reciprocity thing where they, you know, do, like, six, seven weeks of online stuff specific to Oklahoma. And so, it really depends on which ones we can get spots in, where we send ours. But, for the most part, you can go straight to the road in Oklahoma. But some of the bigger sheriff's offices, obviously, they're hurting for people. So there's a good chance if you get to the sheriff's office, you might work in the jail for a while. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Adult babysitting. Well and here's the deal. They they don't pay people enough to do that. Like, that's a underpaid job, and, like, my hat goes off to them because, like, you couldn't pay me to do it. Like, you'd have to double my salary. You know? And even then, I'd probably still gripe every day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's, it's always sunny in '72. You get that fluorescent sunburn, when you're inside the jail. Right? So I think that's the only benefit. You don't have to work wrecks in the rain, you know, but you gotta deal with, you know, he he stole my my sandwich or, you know, she she didn't, didn't flush or stuff too much TP. Yeah. I just I can't. Yep. I'm out on that as well. So looking back on it, what's your favorite moment from your time at the sheriff's office? Oh, I never worked at Ineso. I always worked at I'm sorry. The county PD. Oh my gosh. The best time. I I've gotta say so when I worked at Gwinette PD, I was uniform patrol for about four years, and I made it made, detective. I worked in the burglary unit and the special victims unit for grand total of two and a half years. It was a year in burglary and and then a year and a half in special victims. I see the most interesting thing, looking back at that agency, was while I was in these, the the burglary unit, we we had a, an international construction site theft ring that were it was made up mostly of Romanian, immigrants. And, we got we we got, like, really into that. I learned a lot about the Romanian culture as part of that investigation. It was almost a year almost a year long. It's about about nine months, in total. We ended up as part of the sting when we, finally went in and and and did the the search warrant and the sting. We had, members of ICE. We had members of the FBI. We had members of, the Secret Service all kind of involved in different aspects of this, And we, found and Interpol because we we located a international homicide fugitive, from Romania. He his crew broke him out on a prisoner transport like you would see in a in a movie theater. Gorghe Exxon was his name or is his name. And, during during that prison escape, there were several guards that were killed. So they wanted him pretty bad. Interpol wanted him pretty bad. So, they they put up a hold on him and came and snatched him up and sent him back. Haven't heard anything about him, since then, but, I think that was that was pretty cool. We've that the house we hit was built completely off of stolen items. Wow. All the fixtures, all the doors, all the appliances, the fencing, the pool, the air conditioning unit, the roof shingles. I mean, literally everything on that house was stolen. And, we put, we we had a list of victims, right, from all the different burglary sites that, got hit. And we just called them all and was like, hey. Seems safe. Come take a look. If one of your items on this property sheet is is here, Come take it. It was less that we had to take back to the, you know, headquarters and try to process. We could release a third scene. It was like a giveaway. I've actually had that from some burglaries and stuff where you're just like, hey. Come see what's yours and what's not yours. I mean but, you know, that that's that's an interesting concept because, like, if a a full house, fence, pool, everything's from stolen items, like, you can't put that in the evidence room. Nope. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you gotta get creative at that point. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. So that that that was probably the most interesting story I can remember. So I gotta how, how much stuff did you get returned? Oh, gosh. I can't even remember. Would you say, like, most of it? Like, did most of these people come and identify their stuff? Or A lot of them had already gotten paid out by the insurance company, but it was the high end appliances, the the door dude, this was a mahogany door. It took it took our door guy because we did a no knock. It it took him almost three solid minutes of hitting this door. And, eventually, it was the door jam that gave not the door had a couple dents in it. Like, this was this was amazing door. So, that that got returned. But all the appliances, the, the external eight, AC unit and the handler inside got returned. I think everything else was just kinda written off. And it's not like we were gonna take the shingles off the roof. You know? I I think bits and pieces of, the pool, the furniture, you know, anything that anything that you could put in a truck that wasn't damaged from from installation. I I think we were able to get returned, but a lot of it was written off and and paid for by insurance companies. That's wild. That's actually a really awesome story because, like, no one would believe that. She was like, yeah. We, we seized you know, pretty much took over a house that everything's stolen. Like, not one thing. It's not stolen. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. So when you got back into it and, you know, market crashes, you're back in law enforcement in a small town, that's a completely different animal. How did how did you adjust? And did did you ever receive any pushback? Because I'm sure coming from a bigger agency, you were probably a little bit more proactive. Did you ever receive any pushback off that at the smaller agency? There were no. Not really. Our chief was very, very supportive. He he said he would tell us, you know, he won't he wouldn't tell us who, but he would tell us, hey. I got a phone call from one of those tickets that you wrote last night. Good job. Way to go. If somebody tells you they know who I am and tells you to call me and it's 03:00 in the morning, don't you effing call me. I'll deal with them in the morning. So it was great. Dave Hill, fantastic chief. He was he was a big guy. Like, he was he played defensive lineman for the Steelers, I wanna say in the in the early two thousand I mean, early not nineties, messed up his knees. But, I mean so big guy. Right? Part of the Iron Curtain. And, funny story about him, he he'd come out on nights, and ride with you. And it wasn't till, like, I'm the chief. Let me see how you do things. It was he was freaking bored and wanted to be a part of the guys, you know. Yep. And, he'd come out with no vest, no gun. He'd have his radio, but it would sit in the cup holder, you know. Like a ride along almost. Yeah. And I'd be like, hey, chief. You, you're gonna bring Roscoe with you? And he's like, no, man. I got all I need right here, DOA and RIP. That's awesome. Yeah. He was a good guy. So, yeah, he was very supportive. If we had to lock somebody up, we you lock them up. If they were drunk, he took them to jail. If, but he also gave you leniency of that officer discretion that if they were, yeah, under the influence, but, you know, you could get them home and it was appropriate to do so, he was okay with you making that call as well. Right. Yeah. He was he was good. There was, the town rolled up at, like, nine eight 9PM. You know? And there's just nothing moving. There was a part of town where the speed limit went from 55 to 45 to 35 right right through Main Street. And it was easy to get speeding. You know, you could do that all day long and, every day and twice on Tuesdays. But then at 9PM, you were like you know, you you you went looking for crickets to write noise ordinance violations to because there's nothing else going on. So you had to fight boredom. That was kind of the biggest issue in that town. Right? It was two and a half square miles. Like, it took it took about, thirty minutes to drive every street. And then a twelve hour shift after nine from 9PM to 6AM, you had to get creative to, to be proactive. Yep. That's a that's a big adjustment. Yeah. It was. Yeah. It was. But we had all the tools we needed. That was the first agency that I was introduced to, a camera in the car and a body mic. You know? It was a it was still a VHS in the trunk. But, that was, you know, my first experience in, in having calls recorded, and that was actually a blessing, for for DUIs. It was, you know, it was great. Things that you would forget happened, you go back and watch tape. Oh, that's right. I remember I remember they said that or remember they did that. And, you know, you could check your your field sobriety card. Right? This is what I wrote down and go back and watch it. Yep. I was spot on. That's exactly where they put their foot down. This the number of times they stepped offline. Yep. I got that right too. So, you know, it it was nice. It was a very forward thinking chief with a very small budget. Yep. There's a lot of towns like that in Oklahoma that, you know, after probably nine, ten o'clock, there's not much movement. And so, we we we've actually got a lot of that, my current agency, because we have 11 counties. And, we have Metro Tulsa for a lot of it, which, you know, they are gonna stay pretty hooked up twenty four seven. But you get down, like, the far southern part of the reservation, and, like, you might not see somebody the rest of the night. You know? Mhmm. And so it I tell people all the time, like, when they start there, like, have an open mind because there's different styles of policing and different things to do besides just stop every car. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with being proactive, but there's also nothing wrong with getting involved in your community and getting to know them and stuff because a lot of times, those are the ones that give you either best information or the ones you go out there and make relationships with. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. That's, not necessarily confidential informants, but you you know, there's an old saying. If If you wanna if you wanna know about a man, talk to his wife. You wanna know the truth about a man, go talk to his barber. And, people have the, they they get diarrhea of the mouth with when they are around com people they're comfortable with. So if you wanna learn about your community, you have to go knock on the doors of the merchants and go talk to them. And, stop by, you know, Annie m at the end of Elm Street and just talk to her while she's, you know, on weeds from from the flower bed. If you wanna you wanna learn what's going on in the meth head house behind hers, go talk to her. Right? Yep. Yeah. So yeah. Absolutely. You got it. You community policing, I think, is, an overused term, and it and it got misplaced a few a few years ago. It's it's not about doing stupid dance contests, with music and being recorded and putting on on Facebook or Instagram. Yep. It it's it's it's about it's about the commute getting and out and talking to the community, not these stupid challenges. That's the dumbest dumbest stuff ever anyway. That's just one ops opinion. No. I I'm with you on that. So you go to a bit little bit bigger agency next, and you say it's miserable. I've been around bad leadership, and it just drained you. Is that is that kinda how you felt? Just you felt like it wouldn't matter what I did. I couldn't do anything right, or, you know, I just I'm just ready to go to a different place. Like, this place ain't for me. Like, how does it affect you as a a patrol officer? It, it was definitely bad bad leadership. We it what it wasn't in fact, it wasn't leadership at all. It was management. And I and I feel and I feel like that is coming to light in a lot of agencies now that there's a focus on the individual officer's mindset and overall health and well-being. Right? We have a try to keep this PG. We we've got a crap ton of managers out there in leadership positions that have no idea what leadership is. 100%. Or at one point, they were a leader. They got promoted, but out of self preservation, they became a manager so that they could continue to climb the ladder. And it's easier just to say, yes, boss. We'll make sure that happens than it is. You know what? I don't know that that's really good for the community or the rank and file. Maybe we should talk about some other way of doing whatever that is. Right? So at that at that medium sized age or at least small medium, schmedium, I guess, is really what it was. It the the chief was, a retired Florida state trooper who brought a lot of state trooper mentality to a small police agency or SMEDIUM agency. And he was very traffic thinking and and not proactive policing thinking. We we we had nine different projects, but we weren't allowed to call them projects. They were they were housing authorities. Right. We couldn't say the word project over over the radio. We'd get in trouble. And and that was, there was a lot of things like that. A a lot of terminology that is just common terminology that when you're you're in a situation, you're on a call, and your muscle memory kicks out, and you're trying to tell people where you're at, you're having to try to remember these off book terms that are just politically correct or, you know, it's it's not cop lingo when you're trying to get something out fast. So there was a lot of that micromanagement that was happening at that agency, and it was too small of an agency where, where where that was effective. You know? At a big agency, it it just is what it is. Right? You know, at a smaller agency, it's complete micromanagement from the top down, and everybody reports back up to the chief. And, heaven forbid you say the word project over the radio. You were gonna be standing on the carpet and explaining why you said that word, and it was stupid. Yeah. So, it it was really the level of micromanagement that sent me out the door. And then there were some other policies and procedures that were put in place that, just didn't sit well with the level of experience that I had. I was told I was never gonna come off nights. I had too much experience to go to day shift. I needed to stay on nights. And, and again, I mentioned I was the first officer in the history of that agency to lock up a female for domestic violence. And in fact and I had to fight that all the way to the lieutenant in in in citing Georgia state law on the primary aggressor. It doesn't say the male aggressor. It says the primary aggressor, and you shall, not you will, not you should, you shall. You put those two together. You shall arrest. Yep. And in Georgia, there is one law on the books that you can arrest for a crime that hasn't been committed yet is domestic violence. Wow. If you as the investigating officer believe with probable cause that if you were to leave that those two people together and you walk away that there is a crime that will be committed, you can lock up the the perceived primary aggressor under the Georgia domestic violence law. Because all too often, people officers would leave, and as soon as they would leave, there'd be a homicide Yep. Or of, you know, somebody severely beaten to you know, within an inch of their life. And the officers were they couldn't do anything because there was no crime that was committed. So there was no action that could be taken. So the state legislature got together and like, okay. Well, here's the thought, please. So I had to actually even though all of these officers went through the same mandated academy that I'd went through that learned the same laws from the same books, they had a different interpretation of the law, and I it was always uphill battle for me to to do the job that the chiefs swore me in to do that the citizens of that city needed out of me. And I just I got tired I got tired of fighting uphill battle with the people that wore the same uniform as me. Yep. I've been there. So you go to a college agency or once starting a college agency. Is it the rambling wreck? No. It is not. However, it is part of the University of Georgia, University System of Georgia. So, what what what kind of experience, did you have, I mean, kind of being at the ground level of an agency starting? It was a very unique opportunity. I I mean, my badge number was 17. Wow. Okay. And and and, and and here's a hashtag side note. Every agency that I went to, the last number of my badge number was a seven. Just Wow. Randomly. So, anyway, it was it was it was really cool because I got to help write SOPs from my experience at three other agencies and my my belief systems into what were solid policies and what were ridiculous policies. Now I didn't win every time, of course, you know, but I I had a hand in influencing a lot of the SOP that became standard operating procedure for for that agency. I I, was the field training coordinator, so I got to write the training book on all new hires that came to, to our agency. And they all had to in order to pass field training, they had to come through me. So, like, you know, that was kinda neat to have my hand in development of new officers, and we hired mainly academy grads from the state academy. We did hire some some transfers, some lateral transfers. Most of the most of the officers, after the initial, push through, were, you guys and gals. So, that was really cool to be able to have a finger in the legacy of of an agency. You know? But it was also it was also very similar to policing in a small town. We had a very small even though in the state of Georgia University, police officers are state. We have statewide arrest powers. We could go to any campus in the state and have arrest powers. So we're we're state officers. We had a very small fishing pond that that we could go fishing in, and proactivity was not high on the chief's list. I I would once again, in in sixteen years, I spent 12 of them after dark. Right? So I was the nighttime first, I I worked nights, came in as a patrolman. Within six months, I was promoted to sergeant. Six months after that, I was promoted to to both canine handler and canine sergeant with a dual responsibility of, the evening watch patrol sergeant. So I wore a lot of hats at the same time on on the same shift. And my shift, evening watch, held or or ran the stats, for the rest of the agency in arrests, tickets issued, stolen property located, drugs located, you name it. Our my shift held the record for that, and I was a working sergeant. I I I couldn't stand sitting in in the office with a lieutenant who always had his feet up, on the desk watching some some YouTube video of something. And I I just I had to be out in the in the field with with the troops, and I loved it. So there was always kind of a a a shift, challenge to see if you could get to the jail before the sergeant could. And, and and we enjoyed it. We had fun. We enjoyed it. We we we had our we had our list of chores that we had to do. So we had to we had to go around and lock up all the doors at a certain time. We had to go around and do light checks to make sure that all of the parking lights, stadium lights, the, parking deck lights, all of them were functional. If they weren't, we had to write down which ones weren't, turn that over, in a in a morning report so maintenance could get them fixed. And then once an hour, we had to go around and, you know, we had to pull on doors to make sure they were still safe as well as we had dorms. So we had overnight guests. We had a we had a security team that were security officers that worked the, the front desk at the dormitories. And I gotta tell you, we had a whole bunch of thirteenth graders. And it it was it was it was really was a challenge. We we were SROs, a lot of the time, And, having to deal with the children that parents couldn't wait to get out of their homes, we you know, that's that that's who we ended up with, the the the kids that could sign a FASFA, and get one quarter or one semester worth of funding until they flunked out. Right? But, that that's where they end up. They ended up, a a large number. Not all of them, but a large number would end up in the dorms. So, we would try to be proactive in and around the dorms looking for bad guys that didn't belong there. We had a bunch of young kids out on their own for the very first time, new boyfriends, new girlfriends, alcohol, drugs, sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Right? Except it wasn't rock and roll. It was rap. But, we we would have to we we had domestics inside, the the dorms that we'd have to go answer. So we we did our best to try to discourage visitors that didn't belong there after visiting hours from from being on. And, we ended up, of course, as you can imagine, arresting a lot of students as well. And it we started losing proactivity privileges, if you will. Been there. You know, we couldn't make traffic stops. Been there. We, as the canine handler, I was not allowed to walk the dog. I mean, it was a narco dog, and it was a floppy ear, not a pointy ear. It's a 35 pound chocolate female lab. K? But I couldn't take the dog in the dorms because I was arresting too many students, and the college started losing revenue. It all came back to the revenue. So, you know, it it had its own, it had its own challenges, but it was it was great. I I enjoyed it. Did I answer your question? You did. Okay. But I'm gonna segue into, you don't hear college campuses in the first place normally having a k nine program, because how did how did that happen? I forced the chief's hand. Okay. At the very beginning, we were extremely proactive. And I was I was going to the jail both as a patrolman and a and a sergeant two or three times in a shift, and a lot of it was drugs. And, there there was no way it could because of the Clarity Act, all crimes on campus in Georgia have to be, reported, and it has to be reported on the college's website. Yep. So in an effort to satisfy me, because it was the only thing I ever wanted to do in law enforcement, was work a dog. Like, first day of the academy, and and and, the instructors would go around like, you know, so why did you join the police department? Why did you wanna become a cop? And I was because I wanna work a dog. So it took, it took a couple of years to get there. It took my fourth agency, but it was the only thing I ever wanted to do. So I set my mind to it, and, I was able to prove there was a drug problem on the campus. It was the first year of the dorms. So the, the college really had no choice but to do something to show that they were combating the drug problem. So there was actually an attempt by leadership to give the canine to anybody but Faulkner. And everybody they went to, they were like, no. That's that's Faulkner's dog for that. It's his project. It's his baby. This is what, you know, he's doing. Nobody wanted it. And I and I felt a tremendous amount of respect from from those that I was working with, because there were there were several of the officers that would have been fantastic canine handlers. You know, they they had the the proactivity mindset. They had the, the the right, work ethic to to keep up with training and and all the stuff. So but they they all turned it down. And, so, reluctantly, I got selected to be the handler. And, so, I mean, eleven months after graduating canine school, I went to a, international canine convention in Orlando and ended up winning the top dog overall award not knowing it was a competition. And we we went up against a hundred and one other teams from across the country and two other two other and two other countries. My my dog was phenomenal. I was an okay handler. My dog was phenomenal. She made me look like I knew what I was doing all the time, and I just had to watch and and and let her do her job. She was fantastic at it. So, I used that dog for everything she was worth. I mean, I I put, I would call neighboring agencies at the beginning of the shift to let them know there was a drug dog on shift and that we were available to do searches if needed. I I did all of my training with Georgia State Patrol on for our weekly trainings, and, they would call us quite a bit to come do tractor trailer searches because I could I her nickname was the pocket rocket. I mean, she was thirty five pounds. I could lift her up by a harness and throw her in the back of a of a tractor trailer, and she'd go off and she'd do her thing. Right. So you're right. There are not a lot of agents, especially having drug dogs. They don't want to know. They if they can if they don't if they don't report it, it didn't it doesn't exist. Out of sight, out of mind. That's right. So the, the July of twenty fourteen is, when I tore my rotator cuff. If you were to go back and if you were to pull the stats, the crime stats, the arrest stats for that agency from, November 2011 to, July of twenty fourteen, you'd see a lot of numbers for a small agency. Right? And then those numbers stop in August of twenty fourteen. Crime just stopped on campus. There was no more drugs on campus. Yep. And it wasn't because they solved it. It's because they stopped being proactive. Yep. Yep. Yep. And they just accepted the fact that that was gonna be, just part of the operating of the of the campus. If an officer stumbled into something, fine. They have the ability and the training, hopefully, to do that. But there wasn't somebody out there looking to stop it. Yeah. That's that's wild to me because when you sweep a problem underneath the rug, it doesn't go away. It's just hiding underneath there. Sure. You know, the FBI changed the, the level of burglaries from, the severity from a person's crime to a property crime. And that next year, they were able to report that that president's efforts, and I can't remember what year it was. I I wanna say it was Bush's somewhere in Bush Junior. But, that level of, person's crimes dropped tremendously over the efforts done by the FBI. It's not true. They just recategorized the crime as a from a violent crime to a nonviolent crime. Yep. And now violent crime was down. Right? So, yeah, you're right. Sweeping it under the rug doesn't make make it go away. It just means it's not being reported. It's still there. Yep. And the sad thing is that affects the quality of life and quality of education for other people on campus. Mhmm. But if they just don't address it, then, hey. We don't get abroad. That's right. That's right. We don't have a problem. Yeah. And and part of the part of what sparked that was in, I think it was, 02/2012. There was some some reporter that doing doing a a piece on, party schools just pulled crime stats, right, from colleges all over. And and my college was, like, the, fourteenth or twelfth highest rated drug school in the country. Right? And then that I mean, the president had to say, WTF. We gotta we gotta fix this, and that's that's when proactivity start proactivity privileges started dwindling away. Yeah. Right? We became a 100% reactive agency and not not a proactive agency that we could have been. You know, and here's the deal. That that at the end of the day, other than sweeping the problem underneath the rug, that's a morale killer for guys. If you tell them that they can't do anything Mhmm. You know, that that's just gonna ruin your morale because there's a lot of guys out there that just enjoy showing up, taking their calls, and going home. There's a lot more guys that like to go out there and shake the bushes a little bit even if it's not every second of the shift. But you tell them they can't do that, then there's like, I'll go somewhere else. Or you know what? I'll just I'll take my calls and go home, and don't ask me to do anything extra. Mhmm. You know? And it it it's it's bad for law enforcement when that happens. It is. Yeah. When when you come to work and you do nothing for an entire shift and you've done everything they've expected out of you and you've done nothing, that is a morale killer. Yep. Absolutely. So you tear your shoulder up, you have surgery, and they kinda kick you to the streets. How'd you handle that? Man, that was dark times. Yeah. To, you know, just to be honest, very dark. Going from being told what to wear to work for sixteen years and a and a job that I both loved and hated, and and and having an identity finally of canine sergeant Faulkner, to just Patrick. That was it was a very tough pill to swallow. And full transparency, I was going to school getting my my bachelor's degree in business administration because I wanted to be a bit small business owner. I I wanted to get out of polyester, but I wanted to be on my terms and if my timing when I was ready to do that. I wasn't ready yet. You know, my, my ducks were not quite in a row. So I spent the next ten years trying to figure out who Patrick was supposed to be, and, you know, it ultimately excuse me. Ultimately, it lost me a marriage. Yep. Very dark, very, very difficult to deal with. Once once you are out of this profession, you're you are out of sight, out of mind. Those people on your shift, yeah, they were your friends. They were your colleagues. They were your best friends. You die for them. They would die for you, but their world continues. Your spot was replaced with somebody else that is now holding that position, and you're only out. And it takes about six months for you to just disappear. It's like in the movie back to the future when Marty McFly is looking at his family members sort of slowly being erased. That's what happens to you. When you get out of law enforcement, you leave an agency whether it's because you wanted to or because you you were pushed out or you got fired or whatever, you are on their mind for no more than six months. That's it. Yep. And, you know, you're you're not invited to get togethers. You you don't get phone calls, text messages. Yeah. You might be Facebook friends, and somebody might hit a like button on something that you post, but that's the extent of that relationship at that point. And that is very difficult for it was for me to, to process and to try to create a new tribe, a new belonging somewhere, and it took ten years. How'd you finally start getting past it and, like, going in a more positive direction? It took admitting there was a problem. Yeah. Honestly. No. It it wasn't until the end of my marriage where I was told I wasn't the same person anymore. I didn't see it, of course. I'm the one going through the transition on a daily basis, not seeing that change. My spouse, on the other hand, was seeing the change, experiencing the change. And once, you know, once that ended and then there was the recap, what did happen. I had to admit that there was a problem that I had not successfully admitted to myself that something needed to change, something needed to happen, and it and the unfortunate catalyst for that was a divorce. Yep. And, like, in so many other relationships, it takes the break to become the catalyst to get fixed. Yep. We've, we've gotta do a better job in law and for first responders in general, not forgetting people when they leave. My dad was in law enforcement for forty years, and then once he was done, it's just kinda like a lot of them forgot who he was. You know? And it it's taken a few years, and it's gotten better. But even still, like, you know, people just you know, they might throw you that random like on Facebook, but that's the extent of it. They don't call and say, hey, man. How's your day going? Mhmm. You know? And it sucks because it's it's a part of who we are, and then it's just gone. Because I got out for a year during COVID and, for, like you said, about six months. And then after that, it was just kinda like, hey. I'm gonna like your post on Facebook, but, you know, they didn't call. They didn't text, except for a few of them. And it's rough because it's it changes you you change yourself for so long for a career, and then you try to fit back in the normal society, and it's different. You know? So Yeah. We we've got to do better. And I actually saw a post the other day, you know, on ADB, and I was like, we started we gotta start doing better in a lot of these areas. You know? We really do. So let me ask you about ADB. Jennifer, with first responder coaching. I'm actually going through a program, and couple months ago, she brought it to my attention. And then me being the nerd that I am working on my doctorate, I'm like, man, another source of, you know, learning and networking? Yeah. Sign me up. And, I love it. Good. There's there's every day, there's just so much stuff, and, like, I I always get on there and just expect to see something like that. I'm just like, man, I didn't know anything about that. And, you know, I had Keith on last week, Grounsel. You know? And he's I mean, I was telling him last week, man, you're, like, pumping out these articles like a pro. And they he kinda started chuckling. He's like, dude, when you did did it as long as I do, I've got a lot of stuff to talk about. And I'm like, yeah. That's fair. But what I like in there is the quality of, like, people. And that's why I kinda jokingly called everybody else out when I was like, hey. Everybody said they were gonna sign up, and, no one did. But I did that for a purpose, not out of malice, but I don't want it to become echo chamber. Yeah. You you know? And granted, there's several of y'all who signed up, and I appreciate that wholeheartedly. But I just love it because it's so much different in there because it's positive. Like, there's no negative. There's nobody in their griping. Like, man, I hate going to work today or I gotta work my fifth day straight. Like, it's just positivity, and it changes your mindset at just, like, the granular level of, like, I need to have this mindset more often. Yeah. For sure. And that's, you know, how ADB got born. ADB stands for a different breed. And, Monty, the the founder and CEO of of ADB, he was actually a business coach of mine. And I've been working with Monty for going on three years now. And, he would he would constantly so he's got this other business, this other company called Wealthy Servant. And Wealthy Servant is about helping first responders take the work ethic that we have and build a business to earn the generational wealth that we all deserve, through the through the gift of abundance. Right? So we take we take this mindset that we have, the can do, the problem solving that we've got. Because we walk into domestics all the time not knowing what the hell is going on, figure it out, solve it, problem solve, problem saving solve. Right? Same thing with accents. You roll it to an accident. You're like, how in the world did that car end up over there with this person over here, right, and their shoes over there? Like, how did this happen? Right? And we figure it out. We solve the problem. Well, we have all the skills of being a business owner. We just don't know how to utilize, how to translate. It's like trying to take a military career and put it on a civilian resume. No way to translate it. So I I I started working with Monty and Wealthy Servant, and he kept referring to all first responders as, well, we're just a different breed. We have this in us. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in the profession that we're in. And, that just manifested itself into the training or the ADB nation. Right? There's there's two different two different aspects right now of ADB. There's ADB training and ADB nation. And ADB training is, is just that. It's it's elite level training, a different style, a different, worth of training. Our instructors are all subject matter experts in whatever field it is that they're instructing. We we don't hire what's been coined, podium preachers or or academy level instructors reading off death by PowerPoint. You know, next slide, next slide, next slide. Right? These are all guys and gals that have been in the trenches doing the job, like Keith, who, you know, has has written seven books. He's been in undercover a deep undercover for, you know, long periods of time. He's been a chief of police several times. You know, he's done international training. I mean, the dude's resume is just you had him as a guest. So, you know, your your your peeps, have met him. He and Monty have designed the first nationally certification for undercover work. To become an undercover detective or undercover officer, it will now have its own certification. And it's and it's got some prerequisite courses. There's a three day class that you've gotta take, and then you get to the the, the seven day class. And that seven day class is the certification, and it's twelve hours a day, bro. Wow. Seven straight days, you're in the thick of it, doing everything you can think of in an undercover from every aspect of what that is in the different roles that the different people have, that's the type of training we're doing. We we're gonna have the first ever cryptocurrency certification for investigators to become a certified cryptocurrency investigator. Wow. We're gonna have the very first, there's there's more certification that we're going we're we're pushing out, and it escapes me right now. Anyway, so the things that ADB training is doing is providing that next level training that we as officers beg for and can't get. It doesn't exist. Right? We're we're mandated to take training, and we get the same training year after year after year, you know, a year or an hour of, first aid, CPR. Your requalification time, whether that's once a year or four times a year or somewhere in between. You know, different states have different requirements. I think Texas has a requirement for a de escalation course you've gotta take every year. Georgia has every other year, you've gotta take elder abuse. You know, but so you get you get the you get your eight hours of in service training. Right? And then you you get whatever, death by a PowerPoint, but you don't you don't get to the the immersive level of training. Right? So that's that's ADB. And we've got everything from that undercover certification to, how to beat the burnout course, and in the health and wellness space. We've got leadership classes. If, Rick Anderson comes on your show, if he signed up, great. If he hasn't, I'll I'll I'll poke the bear. Yeah. Rick Anderson is is a, thirty plus year SWAT guy, SWAT leader. Right? And he's he's teaching a leadership course and and a de escalation course. We've got that cryptocurrency. We've got follow the money that Monty's, teaching. It's just it's a different breed of training. Right? So there's that. But then you we have the ADB nation, which is what you joined into. And that is it's a community on a mission to provide exactly the points that you put out. A safe place of like minded lions to go and and to have the fellowship in the community that we that we need. That isn't just at your agency or just in your community or just in your, county or or your state. You're in Oklahoma. Monica Crawford's in Oklahoma, but we've got Nick, Maglio who's in, Rhode Island and, Stephen Mower that's in Pennsylvania. I'm in Georgia. We've got, Colorado, Texas, Arizona, California, Alabama. I mean, we you know, we're covering the entire country, and you've got access through the ADB nation to talk to those officers directly from across the country with different backgrounds to include the instructors of ADB training. So you don't just go to ADB training and take a class, and at the end of the class, you leave. You still have access to that instructor. So three days down or three weeks or three months down the road and you come in contact with the type of scenario that you went to Keith's class, you can actually jump into ADB Nation and ask a question. Yep. You know? And and what happened? How often do we not get that in real life? You know what I'm saying? Like Yeah. Yeah. How how is this not existed beforehand? And, and that and that's what ADB nation is. It it's a community on a mission to provide the the essential resources, and that's community, support, training, fellowship that we as an industry are starving for. Yep. Absolutely. And, you know, I I I don't know how familiar you are with the AILIADA. Similar similar goals. Like, their goal is to make the next generation of trainers to be able to give quality training to people. And, like, when we go to their conference every year, like, it's the same type of thing. Like, you get there and, like, it's actually fun to be there and learn and supportive, and you're like, man, this is so much different than being back at my agency. And not that my agency is bad by any means. I'm not saying that. No. But, like, there's always a negative presence wherever you work at. Somebody's gonna be negative. Mhmm. You know, and negative Nancys everywhere. Right? And and even, you know, my story of, you know, being kinda pushed out from the college, it's not it's not a negative story. It it had a negative impact on me, you know, but it it was just, you know, the way the way that that agency operates. It's still a great agency. It's got some good leaders in there. It's got some bad managers, but it's got some great leaders there. And every every agency is that way. It's gonna have a negative Nancy somewhere. Yep. Where do you see ADB ending up over the next five years? Gosh. In five years? So, right now, we're pushing 20 classes a month in ADB training. The goal by December of this year is to have a 80 classes per month across the country. That'd be awesome. Yeah. And we've got a waiting list of instructors that want to come and teach at ADB. And, we've actually had to tighten down the, the requirements to come in because so many people are beating down the door to come teach because of of the mission and the goal it resonates with our industry with our career field. And it's it has been a long time coming. So on top of the, the 80 classes per month, you know, the ADB nation, we're we're looking to have somewhere around 10,000 people by the end of this year. And in five years, you know, maybe a hundred thousand people Yeah. From you know, there's there's thousands of agencies across the country. Yep. Thousands of agencies. And the average agency is about 10 officers. If you, you know, if you break that down, like, ten, fifteen officers, I think is a stat that I heard today. You know, so there's there's the possibility of of that number. You know? Will we make that? I hope so. It'd be awesome to have that that that amount of people. Can you imagine the number of collective years of experience that would that would provide a single individual officer that they could call upon? Yep. That'd be awesome. Yeah. That'd be awesome. And then every year, we have we're gonna have ADB week, and it's open to, all the members of ADB and all the instructors at, ADB training. And it's, it's gonna be January of twenty twenty six. It's in Vegas. It's a week long, and it's going to like, a powerhouse of speakers. You get to meet all the people that go there, you know, for it, and and get to shake hands with people from all over the country, like minded, as I said, lions. Right? We're not sheep. We're we're the lions. We're we're the, you know, the 2% of the the nation that can actually do the job. Right. And so it it's gonna it's gonna grow like a weed. That's awesome. And there's mobile apps coming too. Right? What is say it again. I'm sorry. Is there there there is mobile apps coming too. Right? Like, for Apple and Android? Yep. Yep. Yep. There is a mobile app that is coming right now. It is just, URL supported, which, you know, a lot most smartphones can still operate it. It's not the greatest right now. Mobile friendly, but it is it's navigable. So, but there is an app coming. Yeah. It's in development. Well and I think once that goes live, I think you're gonna see it skyrocket even more because we're at work. 95% of the time, we're filling in extra shift. And, you know, maybe I wanna get on here and, you know, get some extra training, you know, if somebody posts a video to watch or podcast to listen to. Oh, yeah. There you go. You know? And even if you make it just a little bit more convenient, you know how cops are. They're gonna take that little bit and be like, yeah. Alright. Now I'll sign up. Yep. You know? And so Yep. I I love it. And, you know, like I said, I was honored just to have you on here because, I'm just a beat cop from Oklahoma. I mean, I there's plenty of stuff that I'm good at, but, at the end of the day, I'm a beat cop from Oklahoma. And, I love hearing new ideas and stuff from just all across the country because they can apply here and they can be brought here. And if it makes things better, then why wouldn't I? You know? Yeah. Yeah. You know, for a box of donuts a month, you can join the ADB nation Yep. And and get that access. You know? Not that this needs to be an infomercial for for ADB, you know, but, it it is a good it is it's a great thing. And, I I I feel like in five years, this industry will have a shift in the direction it needs to go. Like, the pendulum like, politics and law enforcement, it is a pendulum. Right? And right now, we, or in the last ten years or so, we swung way one side. And now starting to come back down, we're about we're, you know, not quite back in the middle of the road yet, but we'll we'll start to swing that other direction in the next five years, and we'll have more positive than negative. I feel like and I and I I honestly believe ADB is gonna be a big initiative in that. That's awesome. I love it. Love it. Now here's the hard hitting question of the day. Alright. Shoot. How did a cop start a a comedy podcast? Would you believe two fingers of a good bourbon and a cigar? I I could actually believe that. Yeah. Alright. So, the knock and talk show started, as a cocktail napkin doodle. I was sitting on my back deck with with some old timers that I grew up with. So my my best friend is, ten years my senior to the day. We share the same birthday. Wow. And he was my very first patrol sergeant, back in February. And, we were sitting on my back deck with a couple other old timers from his era that that he policed as patrolman with, and, we were just telling remember when stories. Dude, do you remember when so and so did this? That shit was so funny. Like, I can't believe that he got away with such and such when he said that. You know? Or, and just just the big fish stories of do do do you remember that chase? Do you remember that arrest? And I was thinking to myself, man because we had just lost two guys from that era that retired and died in two years of retirement. Very common in this profession. Oh, yeah. And I was like, man, I wish they were here to tell their version of the story because we were trying to tell their story because that's what we were doing is we were reminiscing about those two guys that had just passed away. And they were great guys, and they had great stories. One of them did did four tours in Vietnam, and then came back and became a cop. And, you know, the the stories he would tell about post post Vietnam policing was just wild. Like, you can't imagine what policing was like in the seventies if you're a young buck now just coming out of the academy. You have no idea what policing was like. You know? And and and now those stories are dead. And I was like, we can't we can't let we can't let these stories die. So we started, you know, I I feel like there's a podcast in this. And and these these dudes were like, what the is a podcast? I'm like, okay. Alright. You know what? Go watch Nick at night. I think you you know? Yeah. Go go go back and watch my three sons or or all in the family or whatever. So, I I started doing some research into podcasting. I'd never listened to a podcast. I knew what they were I knew what they were about. Like, I knew they existed, and and, I knew it was a platform for sharing, and it was a a place where a lot of people were starting to go to get their news. Right? Because the belief system in the in in mainstream media was really beginning to dwindle, three years ago. Actually, before that. But, so I I started thinking, and I started working with with my best friend, like, you know, what what could we call this podcast? And and it needs to be about the funny stories because, you know, this is a this is a dark profession. And we really struggle sometimes to put that uniform back on, go back to work, and and deal with the crap that we have to deal with, but both from from the people in the community that that one don't trust us, don't like us just because of the polyester and the badge. It's not personal. They just don't like the stuff that we wear. But also the people that wear the same thing that we wear, we have to worry about the crap we get from them. And and it's just sometimes difficult to put put that shit on and go to work. So how do we remember that we can have fun? How do we remember that there are funny things that happen? And and to use levity as a coping mechanism for a very dark and dangerous career field. So I started going through police terms in my head, like, what resonates with cop talk. Yep. And one of my favorite things to do after I got out of, investigations and went back into patrol was knock and talks. I loved doing them. After being a burglar detective for a year and 90% of your burglaries are drug related Mhmm. I I learned the power of knock and talk because I was going around and just doing follow ups to burglaries and knocking on neighbors' doors, and I would stumble into a grow house, or I'd stumble into a cooking lab or something like that. You know? And so I was like, alright. So what about knock and talk? What about knock and talk? And, my my buddy was like, yeah. Dude, that actually that's pretty cool. What's your logo gonna be? I was like, oh, man. It's gonna be cool. It's gonna be a door. And he's like, what? So I actually worked with a I, a a logo designer out of California. And if you look, my pen's not working, but it's it's a door. It's a the badge is the door knocker. The, the microphone is a badge. There's three lines at the top of the microphone. Those were my sergeant stripes. Right. You know? So, I worked with a really cool guy. He was he actually is a psychologist that design that turned to graphic design, and he I mean, we dove deep into what, what the logo needed to be. So, not that you wanna know all that, but that's how that came about was preserving the funny stories. We all have the funny stories, and we need to share the stories so the stories don't die, but also so we can remember we can have fun at work. It's not all dark. It's not all, you know, hellfire and brimstone. You know? It it it is actually fun sometimes. Yeah. Absolutely. And I'll I'll tell you, one of the my one of my first guests, Dakota Hanks, if you can get him on your show, great podcast guest. He's online twice. He told a story, and I and I won't steal his thunder, but it involved chickens. Another okie. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you can get him on your show, fantastic guest. We're Facebook friends, so I bet you I could probably I I I could probably swing that one. Good. You should. He loves being on podcast, by the way. Yeah. And he's got he's got a a great stories. One that I which shocked the the crap out of me. He told me one time he ran code for forty five minutes. Yeah. I've done it for two hours at the tribal agency. Running code I did it like last weekend. Yeah. That's that is crazy talk for a city folk that, you know, might might take 20 to get from one side of, you know, your jurisdiction. Yeah. Absolutely. And, like I said, I worked at Munis Valley's before this, but, I live on the northern half of our reservation. And it was every bit of an hour and forty five minutes a couple weeks ago when, we had a drone call out on a SWAT deal. And, I was heading home for a part time gig, and they were like, hey. We need you. And I was like, alright. I'll be there, as soon as I can. And it was every bit of an hour and forty five minutes. Jeez. Jeez. Did you pass any low flying planes on your way? I mean, god. I passed a lot of different, like, life biomes. I think I went through some some great plains. I went through some woods. I went through, some hills, urban, turnpikes, rural areas, a little bit of everything. That's crazy. And what's funny is that we're I ended up being out there for, like, eight hours. And, like I said, it's more on the rural side of the reservation, and, like, I had to limp it, like, thirty five minutes away just to get gas because I wasn't making it home Because there wasn't anything open in that town, and I wouldn't go test it. I wasn't gonna test it and be like because they were like, hey. Like, you might be able to get gas there after hours. And I'm like, yeah. I'm gonna go to somewhere where I know there's a twenty four hour, like, open. Sorry. Jeez. But it it it happens in Oklahoma, especially for because he's a tribal officer too. Yeah. And, it it happens, and it happens pretty frequently. Luckily, we've went to districts for the most part for our patrol guys, And so there isn't as bad as it was, but when I first started there and was a patrolman, I got a homicide one morning that was already secured. They just needed one of our officers down there because it occurred on the neighboring reservation. And, it took me every bit of two hours to get there because I was driving a Dodge pickup running hot. And, you know, unfortunately, there was nobody that was like, hey. I'll I'm a lot closer. I'll at least go there till you get there. Yeah. Dodge pickup trucks aren't fast when you're going, you know, across 11 counties, basically. No. And, I got there when I got there, and I get there. And, like, the BIA and the FBI are arguing over who's gonna work the scene. And I'm like, hey. Like, I'll I'll put my handcuffs on this guy and take him to jail for you. You guys should fight over who's gonna work it, but, I'm just gonna get him out of here for you. And I got him out of there left, but, you know, it was a, you know, three hours of driving afterwards because I'd drive back to where I went to do my report, and I'm just like, all I do is put handcuffs on. Anyway, I didn't do anything important. Like but, you know, it had to be it had to be done. Right. Right. And, no. So where can I, listen to knock and talk at? So it's in all the places that you would wanna find it. Right? It's on Yep. It's on Apple. It's on, YouTube, Facebook. There's links from LinkedIn. Let's see. I believe Google Podcast. It was on Samsung Podcast. It's on iHeartRadio. It's in all the places. Wherever you consume your podcasting. Yep. That's awesome. That's awesome. I don't wanna kinda There is a fake knock and talk show out there too that started right after I did. It's a So it's a knockoff? It's a knockoff talking show. They, it's it's a husband and wife combo in Oklahoma I mean, in in Ohio and a lovely couple. I was actually a guest on their show, and we talked about it. But I am the original knock and talk show. The OG. The OG. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. I don't wanna tap your whole night. Again, I wanna thank you for being here. It was a pleasure, man. I loved it. You know, I I love what you guys are doing with ADB. I'm definitely gonna put the podcast on. I've got an hour drive to work every morning, so I'm I'm definitely giving some I'm gonna give you some spins. Okay. Alright. Hey. I've got 40 episodes. I took a two year hiatus after the divorce. I just didn't have the space, to to set up a studio in a one bedroom apartment. So, but, back in the house, I'll have the green screen up so this fading stuff won't happen. And Yep. I've got a whole litany of guests now from from ADB. So, the knock and talk show is is back, baby. Bringing the band back. Yep. Well, again, thank you for coming. Yeah, bro. And I'm here if you need me. Like, I'm always here to because I'll tell you some wild stories because we had a casino in my last agent. Well, we have one of my current agency too, but, I'm not in the patrol setting right now. I'm more in training. So but, you know, there's a lot of wild stuff that happens at casinos. Oh, I yeah. Shocker. I know. Shocker, buddy. Imagine that. I know. It shocks everybody. Sin City. Yep. Well, is that Brent, if you ever need a last minute guest, somebody cancels, let me know. I'd be happy to come on if I'm available, if you just, you know, I I I love doing this. I love sharing stories. So and and it's interesting being on this side, as I mentioned earlier. Being being on the receiving side of of the questions is it's interesting. So, I've had a lot of fun. I enjoyed it. I wish you all the best success. Once you you know, the national average is, 10 episodes. So if you make it to, episode 11, you've gone further than 90% of podcasters. You're number eight. Hey. Alright. Oh, dang it. Shame I'm not number seven. That would have been that would have been great with my batch number. That would have actually been kinda funny. That would have been funny. I would have gave you credit for that one. Well, I won't tie you up. Thank you for coming. Yeah. And have a good night. You too, brother. Stay safe. You too. Can you hear me? Yeah. | 00:00:03.520 - 01:22:49.665